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Sarevok Thordin · May 14, 2006, 03:58 PM // 15:58

What would be the best armor combo for an assassin in general (meaning, I'm able to change build and still have good use from the armor abilities)

I'm thinking of Nightstalker Chest/Legs and Shrouded Legs/Gloves.

That a good idea?

getchoo · May 14, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30

shrouded chest n leggings with night stalker boot n gloves gives 30 energy wich is great

unholy guardian · May 14, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41

get night stalker chest and legs, shrouded boots and hands

not a huge point to put nightstalkers into boots and hands... espcially since you are not hit there often

MercenaryKnight · May 14, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43

I was just wondering wouldn't the +15 while attacking be best for leggings/chest then conditions for gloves and boots depending on how much energy you get from the gloves/boots?

MercenaryKnight · May 16, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33

I was wondering, does 15k exotic helmets look any different then 1.5 versions? Also, the reason I posted in this was because I was wondering what 15k helmet should I get for a mainly pve assassin. I am assuming I would always want a dagger helmet with sup dagger mastery if I had to use one superior rune.

Narcism · May 16, 2006, 04:24 AM // 04:24

I'm using all +life armor. Energy max has never really been an issue.

just rude · May 16, 2006, 04:34 AM // 04:34

I run Vanguards chest cause i hate blind. Night stalkers the rest, 25 nrg is enough with zealous daggers.

Priceykins · May 16, 2006, 12:26 PM // 12:26

I use full shrouded 15k kurzik, with a 1,5k bladed mask(keep it hidden so no point in that being 15k

)

I tried the health armour for a while, but i found the plus 30 health from the armour(i think thats what it gives) just to be not worth it when you can have the extra energy which can help extend your combo for maybe one more move, which gives more damage.

Hakuin · May 17, 2006, 05:02 AM // 05:02

15k luxon guise w/ 15 kurzik leggings, gloves, and shoes and canthan mask (just my opinion though ^^;;

i agree with Narcism, if u run assassin well, you just gain energy w/o a problem

Maladjusted · May 17, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35

Shrouded Armour is the best choice IMO.
The best defense is a good offense.

Extra life or extra defense means you're an assassin that is expecting to take HITS. That's what Shadow Arts is for.
You really should be looking to be an assassin focused on KILLING.

XxUberMonkeyxX · May 17, 2006, 05:36 AM // 05:36

i personally like the sabatouer's armor for PVP since most of the warriors and assasins out there are using slashing dmg with bleeding and deep wound conditions so the sabatouer's armor works really well

Effigy · May 17, 2006, 05:58 AM // 05:58

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Originally Posted by Maladjusted

Shrouded Armour is the best choice IMO.
The best defense is a good offense.

Extra life or extra defense means you're an assassin that is expecting to take HITS. That's what Shadow Arts is for.
You really should be looking to be an assassin focused on KILLING.

I'd have to disagree on this point. Offense is certainly important, but defense is also important if you plan to stay alive long enough to kill multiple people. Shadow Arts skills may help compensate for having lower armor, but on the other hand, having higher armor can make you more durable therefore freeing up skill slots for offensive skills. The difference between Nightstalker and Shrouded chest/legs is only 5 energy if I remember correctly, so I'd say having +15 armor while attacking is generally going to be more useful.

Maladjusted · May 17, 2006, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by Effigy

I'd have to disagree on this point. Offense is certainly important, but defense is also important if you plan to stay alive long enough to kill multiple people. Shadow Arts skills may help compensate for having lower armor, but on the other hand, having higher armor can make you more durable therefore freeing up skill slots for offensive skills. The difference between Nightstalker and Shrouded chest/legs is only 5 energy if I remember correctly, so I'd say having +15 armor while attacking is generally going to be more useful.

* An assassin is not a player type to take on and kill multiple people IMO. If you want to do that, a warrior is more suitable. Assassins need to choose ONE mark at a time.

* If you want to be more durable, it means you're taking hits. If you're taking hits, you should be a warrior. Also, if you're taking sustained hits, you're being too slow about your task. The assassin's best armour is cowardice...errr...sort of...."strategic retreat"?

* 7 extra energy almost pays the entire cost of Critical Defenses. I'm not sure about you, but I think the best armour of all is evasion.

Effigy · May 17, 2006, 07:40 AM // 07:40

The difference is generally only going to be 5 energy, since you would be using Shrouded gloves/boots regardless. However, with Nightstalker chest/legs you'd have +15 AL while attacking vs 62.5% of hits. +5e only affects your max energy, not your rate of regen. If you have high enough CS to be using Critical Defenses effectively, then you should have enough energy management without needing +5 max energy imo. Not to mention that if you're chaining attacks, your energy pool will probably not return to full during combat. The +15 AL, on the other hand, will give continuous damage reduction vs all types, not just melee/arrows that would be prevented by Critical Defenses.

Assassins do shine at killing single targets, but the thing is you'll rarely ever fight a single enemy. If you do, that means his entire team is dead and you've basically won already. If the enemy team is smart, they won't just let you hammer away uninhibited on one of their friends. Fighting multiple targets is the default situation, even if you're only trying to kill one of them at the moment.

I suppose you could chalk it up to personal preference, but I think +armor almost always beats out +energy. The only real exception would be on a warrior, since they have much higher base AL. Assassins don't have that luxury so I'd go for the extra defense.

hazardous · May 20, 2006, 12:01 PM // 12:01

hey all, i was thinking bout takin chest+leggings with +15al while attacking
then gloves with reduction to blind
and boots with reduction to psn or extra life ?

i use a constat 15% wpn with -5 energy, so my energy pool is max 20, but still i find harly a problem with all the crits, [im still low lv, new made assa] but i get lotsa times +3 or more energy from 1 atk, which just keeps me going

so what do u suggest?
oh, and is the +15vs pierce/blunt universal ? or it stacks only for 1 piece [liek if i got gloves with +15 vs blunt and i get hit in the chest with a blunt, does the DR the gloves have affect it ? or not]

Haggard · May 20, 2006, 01:55 PM // 13:55

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Originally Posted by Hakuin

i agree with Narcism, if u run assassin well, you just gain energy w/o a problem

but he said instead of the + energy he used +hp armour,, when it is a well proven fact that +5 armour keeps you alive longer than +30 hp, so surely +15 armour when attacking would work better than +35hp..

Miakoda · May 20, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Sometimes I like to use +HP armour in order to allow for another Sup or major rune raising my defences to a level where they surpass the +AL armour.

Sometimes to raise a suppliment attribute for better killing power too.

Beorn Drake · May 20, 2006, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by Effigy

The difference is generally only going to be 5 energy, since you would be using Shrouded gloves/boots regardless. However, with Nightstalker chest/legs you'd have +15 AL while attacking vs 62.5% of hits. +5e only affects your max energy, not your rate of regen. If you have high enough CS to be using Critical Defenses effectively, then you should have enough energy management without needing +5 max energy imo. Not to mention that if you're chaining attacks, your energy pool will probably not return to full during combat. The +15 AL, on the other hand, will give continuous damage reduction vs all types, not just melee/arrows that would be prevented by Critical Defenses.

Assassins do shine at killing single targets, but the thing is you'll rarely ever fight a single enemy. If you do, that means his entire team is dead and you've basically won already. If the enemy team is smart, they won't just let you hammer away uninhibited on one of their friends. Fighting multiple targets is the default situation, even if you're only trying to kill one of them at the moment.

I suppose you could chalk it up to personal preference, but I think +armor almost always beats out +energy. The only real exception would be on a warrior, since they have much higher base AL. Assassins don't have that luxury so I'd go for the extra defense.

I agree completely. Add in a Zealous mod and maybe even on a +5 energy weapon (if you want to sacrifice +15^50) into one of you weapon sets and your well suited for most situations and the inevitable long drawn out battles to come.

Lambentviper · May 22, 2006, 12:48 AM // 00:48

excuse me for not reading most of the above posts, as this information maybe already have been said:

It really depends on what your going to be fighting. IF its a PvP character, then ask your "who am i going to be targeting?"

if its rangers, take vs. peircing armor, and reduces poison and cripple enhancements.

If its warriors or assassins, go with vs. slashing/while attacking armor, reduces deep wound and bleeding enhancements.

if its against general spikes, go with all +health armor, and if your running an energy heavy build go with shrouded. or a mix of em all.